NIKE must owe billions to the WT in licensing fees...(Just Do It)
Yan Bibiyan
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A polite way of saying "quit whining and get back to work!"
by cedars ini was interested to read the life story of leonard smith in the latest april 15th watchtower (now available for download at www.jw.org).
it's not every day i notice a brit getting to relate his life story in the literature, so this peaked my curiousity.. i chuckled to myself when i stumbled on the following anecdote on page 21:.
is it just me, or is that not just a thinly-veiled way of saying "shut up with your moaning, and get back to work!"???.
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Yan Bibiyan
Terry, I may have inadvertently derailed your thread a bit….
Truthseeker,
Having a certain belief system should be everyone’s right; I have nothing against yours.
Where I see a conflict is when beliefs, or facts/laws to that effect, are applied inconsistently.
Let me explain.
When you get on an elevator, do you suppose a supreme being or one of its aids holds and moves the elevator cabin, or are you certain that there are ropes, counterweight and motor that facilitate the up-down movement? Do you think the elevator manufacturer just guessed the size and tension of the ropes, the power needed for the electric motor and the weight of the counterweight?
Or, are you certain the manufacturer calculated and tested all of the above using defined, established and provable formulas derived from laws of physics that behave CONSISTENTLY and impartially?
When you drive your car and apply the brakes, do you think an invisible hand is slowing your car down, or are you certain that there is a rotating disk to which friction is applied by specially fabricated brake pads? Is the momentum of your slowing car simply leaking in the time indefinite or is all of the kinetic energy being transformed to heat by said disk and brake pad assembly?
When you board a plane, do you have any doubt in your mind that the lift created by the forward motion of the airplane and the wings design/surface area is going to somehow disappear midflight and the plane will fall out of the sky like a rock (it weighs few hundred tons, afterall) ? No, or you wouldn’t board it.
Point I am making is that our lives, down to the minute daily details, depend on a set of rules (physical or natural laws) that behave PREDICTABLY and CONSISTANTLY.
Those rules, whether put in place by a supreme being or not, are blind and impartial, just like the ocean that supports the tiniest paper boat or the largest cruise ship, as long as they conform to the laws of buoyancy.
Yet, when we try to apply the same rules to an event that has happened in the confines of our (same) physical world and the math/principles/events do not add up, we somehow turn a blind eye on them and replace them with faith……
Events in our physical realm are either subject to the same laws that govern its very existence, or they are not subject to it.
We either believe the rules or we don’t. We do not hope for the rules to work, we know they do. We do not set a sail on a cruise ship hoping that it floats, we know it does.
In any event, I respect your choice of beliefs and wish you the best.
-Yan
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Yan Bibiyan
My scenario is an absurd exaturation.
The whole point is that at best, we dont know. And if we say we don't know, it perfectly fine. Instead, we say that we know, while keenly aware that we just don't know..
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Yan Bibiyan
God gave the angels said powers, but we have free will and so do they and they abused their free will.
So, if you gave your child a videogame with the explicit instructions to be used only by him and you came home from work one day to see all the neighborhood kids playing with it, what do you do?
Break out the AK47 and empty few mags in them?
Didn't think so. But of course that would be the actions of some "low-thought" scumbag, not of a responsible normal human adult....
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Yan Bibiyan
Yan, I get your point, but God's thoughts are higher than our thoughts.
I don't know....if we, with our "lower" thoughts, can think of a bunch of less-destructive ways to solve this self-inflicted "situation" (who gave said powers to said angels in a first place?)
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Yan Bibiyan
Once the fallen angels had dissolved their fleshly containers and were back in the Spirit Realm, they were stripped of the power to materialize again in the fashion they had once possessed.
..and an omnipotent God coudn't strip them of said powers, or just yank them back to heaven without nuking everything around, because of...?
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Yan Bibiyan
Imagine the damage 363 inches of pounding down rain per hour ....
Hmmm, that's why they called it a deluge, not just some infantile rain
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How well known is JEHOVAH?
by jwfacts infor anyone that has not been to www.ted.com than i strongly recommend it.
there is the most amazing range of information regarding science, religion, medicine and technology, and provides a very positive view of what the world will be like in the future.. one talk i just watched was http://www.ted.com/talks/what_we_learned_from_5_million_books.html, which discusses a new ability from goole at http://books.google.com/ngrams to search on the change in how regularly words appear in book.
i thought an interesting comparison would be whether the word jehovah or yahweh is more common.
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Yan Bibiyan
I dunno, Yahweh's graph resembles closely the US national debt; must be Satan's fault
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Yan Bibiyan
What are they now, like, photoshopping "artwork". Look at the dude's head..
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"Disobedience is very costly"
by TOTH inwow, i had some words with my father in law.
over the years i have always had such a profound respect for him because he used to speak from the heart and used the bible to express his view, but lately he has become more and more "wt-ish" with his comments.
my wife has been suffering from severe pain for years due to injuries suffered at the hands of her 1st husband.
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Yan Bibiyan
What a dick!